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RELEASE CANDIDATEEdit

The release candidate is out. Get RC2 here

Release Candidate 2 Notes.

BETA Edit

The expansion is currently in Final Open Beta Testing! 

Downloads and instructions can be found here.

An update to the above beta for the world file can be found here. Add it to the Super Talking Time Bros 2.5 directory in the worlds folder.

How to solve the System Tray/Audio Codec/Gradual Slowdown bug in SMBXEdit

Don't forget, SMBX defaults to your system codec for its audio. For a lot of you, it'll be something like FFDShow, and it can usually be found in your system tray while in use. So you need to adjust your codec in its control panel to run only one multiple instance, or disable multiple instances altogether, depending on which option doesn't cut off various sound effects while playing SMBX. Otherwise it will flood your tray and eventually slow down your system or crash.

Once you apply this fix, quit SMBX and wait for your tray to clear out before launching it again, just so you can be sure it's taking effect.

PlotEdit

The Super Squad is using Tatanga's Starbase to bring Kirby and all of his friends back to Dream Land / Pop Star.

We've discussed using a Kirby villain as the final boss. Hopefully someone who knows more about Kirby can fill in some details on the possibilities.

Game DesignEdit

Gameplay: We're keeping the same general design philosophy, but the difficulty level should be somewhat higher because this is an expansion. We're aiming to continue the curve from the final words of STTB2. Also, STTB2 had a lot of 1-Ups, so we're aiming to make 1-Ups about half as plentiful as before.

World Map: The theme of the game is the Super Squad IN SPACE, so the world map is going to be made up of small "planetoid" worlds with 2 to 3 levels each. This gives us a cha
WorldMapSample

World map sample by SpoonyBardOL

nce to do a lot of different themes. The world map won't be designed until we have most of the levels in place, so go ahead and build your levels and then we'll assemble them into a map.

The plan is for the world map to be a little less linear than STTB2. You'll be able to land the Starbase at any of four locations on the world map (represented by the Xs in the diagram), each in a different "quadrant". From there, you work through a web of planetoids towards the center of the map.

Here is the latest version of the world map (spoilers)

Stand-Alone Episode: The expansion is a stand-alone episode. That means the player's lives, items, and Red Stars won't carry over the main game.
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Schematic world map layout

Development KitEdit

A simple kit can be found attached here

Simply extract it to your STTB 1+2 installation's "worlds" directory.

Graphics PackEdit

At this point we have a healthy collection of home-grown custom graphics already, but some levels need that little extra oomph. Thankfully, the last remnants of the SMBX community have put out an enormous custom graphics pack that contains virtually anything we could want when building a level. It's over 100 megs! Currently, it is available from the official mirror:

The SMBX CGFX Pack 3.1

And some various NPC Kirby poses courtesy of SpoonyBardOL:

NPC Kirby

MusicEdit

List songs used here.

DeadlineEdit

Our aim is to have all the content for the first release candidate ready by June 1st, and all levels must be finalized before then.

RulesEdit

  • You can make as many levels as you want.
  • The World Map isn't being assembled until most of the levels are done, so don't worry about fitting your level into a particular theme or number of exits.
  • Constructive criticism is pretty much universally accepted, but actually editing other people's levels is only okay if they say it is.
  • You're allowed to use custom graphics and music. Always bundle them in a folder with the exact name as your level file. (Don't actually put the level file in this folder, SMBX episodes don't work that way!)
  • When saving your level, always put your name followed by the name of the level. For example: "yourname-levelname.lvl". (Unlike previous STTB projects, there's no need for a world number. We don't have them in the expansion.)
  • Don't create clutter by using different file names for incremental updates. Simply provide a new version to overwrite the previous one. You should only change a level's file name if the name of the level itself has changed.
  • Unless your level requires a specific character, be sure to design it to be playable and beatable with Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Toad.
  • Remember only Mario and Luigi can use Yoshi. If Toad or Peach encounter a Yoshi or a Yoshi Egg, it will be transformed into a Kuribo Shoe. If your level requires Yoshi to beat it, make sure the player can switch to Mario or Luigi before giving them a Yoshi.
  • Don't worry about supporting Link for your level unless he's the star character, because his gameplay style is very different from the others.
  • We're using Giant Gates from Super Mario World for level goals.
  • Level Goal areas should usually look the same. The picture below provides an example. Just think "Super Mario World", "Yoshi's Island", and "Classic SMB" and you should do fine.
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Typical Goal Zone

  • Secret Exits should use Key and Keyhole from Super Mario World.
  • Always place starting locations for Player 1 and Player 2.
  • Levels should always have a working checkpoint, no matter how hard you think the level is.
  • The game can only support one checkpoint per level. If you have multiple checkpoints, the game will get confused and spawn the player at a checkpoint they didn't actually trigger.
  • Each level should have one Red Power Star (selectable in the "Super Mario World" NPC list) hidden somewhere. These should be thought of like DK Coins: They can be in plain sight, or require the player to solve a puzzle or do a trick to acquire them. Remember, the level does not end if the player acquires one of these Stars, so place them accordingly.
  • Red Power Stars should never be invisible, unless offered as a prize for Red Coin challenges. (See below). If you want to hide them for any other reason, you may only hide them in Giant "?" Blocks.
  • No Red Coin levels. But you can still use Red Coins if you treat them the way they worked in NSMB Wii: Hit a switch, and try to grab eight in rapid succession for a reward, before time runs out and they go away. You'll have to fiddle with events to get it to work, though.
  • Levels should be winnable without being forced to take a hit.
  • Never trap the player. If a certain item or powerup is needed to progress in the level, make sure it either respawns, or the player can die if they lost it.
  • All water and waterfalls should be swimmable.
  • Invisible blocks should never be made necessary to finish the level.
  • Do not use SMB3 Lakitu! Instead, pick the NPC you want Lakitu to throw, and make sure the "Lakitu" option on the left side of the NPC panel is set to "yes". This will create a much tamer SMW Lakitu who will throw that NPC regularly.
  • Never put Lakitu in any area where you can scroll the screen vertically, even just a little bit. He'll try to compensate by approaching infinite speed.
  • If you add Dragon Coins (Yoshi Coins), keep it to five on average, but no more than eight.
  • Don't create a block that has Mushroom in it. This will mean you'll only ever get a Mushroom out of it, even if Mario is already big. Instead, put in a different powerup like a Fire Flower or a Leaf; Mario will get that powerup if he's big or the Mushroom if he's small. (Hammer and Tanooki Suits will always be suits regardless of Mario's current size.)
  • If you have horizontal warp pipes, don't put the warp on center or it'll look weird when you enter. Always put the warp on the floor. Also, make sure any such pipes have a floor or block in front of them you can stand on, even if they're underwater.
  • NPC Kirby (replacing NPC Toad) doesn't always have to have the one default sprite. You can use lots of different poses and animations to depict him getting into unhelpful mischief throughout your levels.
  • Custom NPCs that have decimal points in their settings (e.g. speed=1.5) will break the game in some Windows locales. We'll try to advise players to switch their locale before playing, but please only use decimated measurements when it's absolutely necessary.
  • Avoid secrets that require the player to go over the top of the world or under the bottom. We've done this a lot already, and it leads to players jumping into random pits to see if there's anything hidden down there.
  • SMBX allows you to have an entrance to a warp outside the visible part of the world. But if the exit' to a warp is offscreen, going through the warp will kill the player. Be sure to avoid this in your levels.
  • Turn Blocks from SMW can be destroyed with a Spin Jump. Make sure to plan your levels accordingly. If you put an item inside a Turn Block, it can't be destroyed.
  • Just so everyone knows, Rainbow Shells will trigger switch blocks from the right side but not from the left side. SMBX is weird!

Expansion Levels (Current star count: 101☆)Edit

Please sort your own levels. Put new levels in Untested. Levels that have been reworked after feedback and need another look put in Reworked. Any levels that have been tested at least twice and are ready for the beta, put in Ready for Beta under the appropriate portion of the game the would best fit. You can use Unsorted to stash levels that are currently being reworked and are not ready for testing.

World 1R (7☆)Edit

  • Green Dream (☆) (Red Silvers) 4
  • Mushroom Hill Mosey (☆) (PapillonReel) 4
  • Yoshi's Planetoid  (☆) (PapillonReel) 8  Testing Notes 
  • Stormy Bay (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 4
  • Lake Sunshine (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 2 Testing Notes
  • Boss: Castle of Misfit Monsters (☆) (Red Silvers) 6

World 1L (7☆)Edit

  • Wise Owl Forest (☆) (Isrieri) 3
  • Spring to the Key (☆) (Isrieri) 3
  • Koopas All the Way Down () (PapillonReel) 5
  • The Munch Bunch (☆) (madhair60) 4
  • Chomp Meadows (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 7
  • Boss: The Marsh Cave (☆) (Alex Scott) 5

World 2R (7☆)Edit

  • Moonlight Mountain (☆) (Isrieri) 5 Testing Notes
  • Canyon Calamity (☆) (Isrieri) 5
  • Gold Leaf Grove (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 3
  • Cookie Crumble Comet (☆) (Red Silvers) 4
  • Here Comes Honey Boom-Boom () (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 7
  • Boss: Secret Nest Area () (Din) 10

World 2L (7☆)Edit

  • Phantostic Voyage (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 5
  • Let's Live in a Lovely Ghost House () (PapillonReel) 5
  • Albino Dino Rhino Dash (☆) (PapillonReel) 4
  • Shy Anxiety () (Alex Scott) 8
  • Falling Block Game (☆) (TE-Ryan) 3
  • Boss: Modern Norfair () (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 3

World 3R (8☆)Edit

  • Winged Wooden Walkway (☆) (madhair60) 2
  • Airship Graveyard (☆) (Rogue) 5 (previous version 4 )
  • Hop On The Bombbles (☆) (Isrieri) 3 Testing Notes
  • Bad Balloon Trip () (Ifnkohvgroghprm) 6 Testing Notes
  • Sushi Samba (☆) (Isrieri) 2
  • Green Star Challenge: Burning the Rulebook (☆) (madhair60) 11
  • Boss: High Speed Fortress (☆) (PapillonReel) 11

World 3L (7☆)Edit

  • Highlands Hopalong (☆) (Elements) 3
  • Poké Floats (☆) (PapillonReel) 2
  • Return to Cookie Mountain (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 5
  • Winter Palace (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 7
  • Green Star Challenge: Shooting Star Showdown (☆) (PapillonReel) 4
  • Boss: Crystal Peaks (☆) (Rogue) 3 (previous version 2)


World 4R (7☆)Edit

  • Proud Cloud (☆) (Rogue) 1
  • Machu Peachu (☆) (Ifnkohvgroghprm) 5
  • Thank God It's Not A Water Level (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm & Jikkuryuu) 7
  • Para-Spiny Panic! (☆) (SpoonyBard) 2
  • Green Star Challenge: Mirror Mortals (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 4
  • Boss: Misty Lake (☆) (PapillonReel) 4  Testing Notes

World 4L (7☆)Edit

  • Cirrus Citadel (☆) (Din) 6
  • Temple of Timestop (☆) (PapillonReel) 13  Testing Notes
  • Hangin' with Mr. Koopa (☆) (madhair60) 2 (previous version 1 )
  • Ninji Gaiden (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 8 Testing Notes
  • Onward! Dauntlessly! (☆) (Isrieri) 2
  • Boss: Manic Moles () (SpoonyBard) 4

World 5R (8☆)Edit

  • Harrowing Hornethive (☆) (Isrieri) 4
  • Legacy of the Magickoopa () (Rogue & Ifnkovhgroghprm) 10 Testing Notes
  • Journey To The Right (☆) (Isrieri) 2
  • Odd Odyssey (☆) (Elements) 8 Testing Notes
  • Skydancer (☆) (Isrieri) 4
  • Green Star Challenge: Kirby Bowl 65 (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 3
  • Boss: Jiangshi Jamboree (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 7 Testing Notes

World 5L (6☆)Edit

  • The Undercaves (☆) (madhair60) 1 Testing Notes
  • Road to Nowhere (☆) (madhair60) 1Testing Notes
  • Skellington's Key (☆) (madhair60) 1
  • Green Star Challenge: Mario and Luigi: Trap Tower! (☆) (PapillonReel) 5
  • Bullet Ballet (☆) (madhair60) 1 Testing Notes
  • Boss: Skellington's Keep (☆) (madhair60) 3

World 6 (11☆)Edit

  • Tower Power () (Rogue)3 Testing Notes
  • Land, Sea, and Air (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 7  Testing Notes
  • Storm Fortress (☆) (Isrieri) 5
  • Are You Afraid of the Dark? (☆) (PapillonReel) 3
  • Lava Flows (☆)  (SpoonyBard & Ifnkovhgroghprm) 3 Testing Notes
  • Black Planet (☆) (TE-Ryan/Isrieri) 2 Testing Notes
  • Bowser's Space Armada (☆) (SpoonyBard) 1
  • The Void (☆) (madhair60 & SpoonyBard) 2 (previous version 1)
  • Final Boss: Dark Matter () (PapillonReel) 8

World of Random Content (10☆)Edit

  • Talking Time Trip (☆) (Zaidyer) 1 Testing Notes
  • New Super Luigi Bros. 2 (☆) (madhair60) 3 (previous version 2)
  • Green Star Challenge: Heavy Rain (☆) (Isrieri) 1
  • Unscrew Attack (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 11
  • Green Star Challenge: Goomba Factory (☆) (McClain) 2
  • This Game Is Too Gimmicky (☆) (Isrieri) 1
  • The Very Teeeeeedious Cave (☆) (madhair60) 1 Testing Notes
  • Green Star Challenge: Rogue's Gallery (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 7
  • Boss: Out of this Dimension (☆) (PapillonReel) 3  Testing Notes

World of Random Discontent (8☆)Edit

  • Bubbling Boiler (☆) (madhair60) 2
  • Poltergeist Playground (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 9 Testing Notes
  • Platform Games (☆) (madhair60) 2
  • Cutterman Symphony (☆) (Isrieri) 4
  • Mines of Morgue (☆) (Isrieri) 4
  • Moderately Mean (☆) (madhair60) 2
  • Boss: Gofer: Mariodius 2 () (madhair60) 4 (previous version 3 ) Testing Notes

Special World Conclusion (1☆)Edit

  • Prismatic Peaks (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 11
  • Secret Boss Area / Boss Rush (SpoonyBard)
  • Secret Space Area (PapillonReel) 1

Levels Not in Current UseEdit

  • Lunar Subterrane (☆) (Isrieri) 1
  • Boss: Nemesis (☆) (Isrieri) 2
  • The Pit of Ten Trials (☆) (madhair60) 2
  • The Pit of Ten Trials (revised) (☆) (madhair60/PapillonReel)1
  • Voodoo Village (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 1
  • Boss: The Tower of Dr. Zalost (☆) (Isrieri) 1
  • Black Planet (old version) (☆) (TE-Ryan) 1

STTB1 FixesEdit

  • Percy (☆) (Sprite) 3
  • Mansionvania (☆) (_L_) 3

STTB2 FixesEdit

  • Tocking Time Tower (Red Silvers) 1
  • Mariodius (☆) (McClain) 4
  • Forestree (☆) (Golbeeze and McClain) 4
  • The Koopa Kolor Guard (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 8
  • Boss: Butter Building (☆) (SpoonyBard and Ifnkovhgroghprm) 7
  • Cloudy With a Chance of Coins (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 3
  • Fission Mailed (☆) (Ifnkovhgroghprm) 5

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